Posts by FatFreek 2005

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Nathan Knorr's own circuit assembly badge?

by FatFreek 2005 in

for what it's worth, the following image was sent to me in an anonymous email so i can't testify to its authenticity.

she (or he, since it wasn't signed) says he/she was one of the bethel housekeepers and spotted the name tag in a waste basket.

at that time, the early 70's, knorr was regarded by many, including this person, (though disliked by even many bethelites) as god-like.

FatFreek 2005

Hi donny,

That date, 1977, gave me a few chills. In those early months I had resigned as elder but hadn't yet given notice of quitting altogether. When the presiding overseer, a nice fellow, came to me, last minute, about giving a talk at a nearby congregation (Ames, Ia) I tried to back out. I re-looked over that outline, however, and since it was one that didn't offend me at the time I consented. I went by myself, not bringing my family -- who, by the way, didn't know of my feelings at that time -- and gave the talk with horrendous guilt feelings. It was the last time I set foot in a kingdom hall.

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Nathan Knorr's own circuit assembly badge?

by FatFreek 2005 in

for what it's worth, the following image was sent to me in an anonymous email so i can't testify to its authenticity.

she (or he, since it wasn't signed) says he/she was one of the bethel housekeepers and spotted the name tag in a waste basket.

at that time, the early 70's, knorr was regarded by many, including this person, (though disliked by even many bethelites) as god-like.

FatFreek 2005

For what it's worth, the following image was sent to me in an anonymous email so I can't testify to its authenticity. She (or he, since it wasn't signed) says he/she was one of the Bethel housekeepers and spotted the name tag in a waste basket. At that time, the early 70's, Knorr was regarded by many, including this person, (though disliked by even many Bethelites) as god-like. The person said that he/she had thought for the last few years of placing it on eBay to fetch a few bucks. Instead, the person thought it would be of greater service to simply share the scanned image. This person left the organization completely as his/her contract expired a few years later. Fats.

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The four presidents of the watchtower society (Jehovah's witnesses) by edmond c.gruss

by Kojack57 in

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FatFreek 2005

Don't forget an easily overlooked fact -- Number 1 was not Russell.

Len

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Cedar's 'Why The Watch Tower Society Is Already In Decline"

by Dogpatch in

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why the watch tower society is already in decline.

good article, cedars.. http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3236:why-the-watch-tower-society-is-already-in-decline&catid=31:governing-body&itemid=346.

it's also on the front page of freeminds.org.

FatFreek 2005

Hi Cedars,

Very good article as you make some strong points.

The following numbers I stumbled on the other evening may have some relevance. They are languages that Awake! is translated into, and by certain years. I realize it's spotty (not all years are reported -- or I wasn't able to find the report) but for what it's worth, 2004 was a peak year where Awake! was translated into 87 languages.

1948, 3

1952, 3

1966, 26

1995, 75

1997, 80

1998, 62

2000, 58

2004, 87

2008, 81

Len Miller

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What apostates fail to recognize is...

by nananana in

you can cut & paste all the excerpts from articles you want...you can leak all the boe letters, you can pretend to be witnesses and come to the conventions and meetings...but.

no other organization can begin to rival the success and magnitude of the prophecy found in mt 24:14. so apostates....don't waste your time spending countless hours digging up articles and reading books to convince yourself to turn away from jh's organization.

no matter what "evidence" you find you cannot ignore the obvious fulfillment of matthew 24:14.. .

FatFreek 2005

Hi Nanananananana,

I challenge you to take 11 minutes and check out THE GREAT WATCHTOWER CONTRADICTION. Then get back to me.

Len

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Examples of Fredrick Franz Horrible personality.

by Witness 007 in

in he's nephews book i could not believe some of the things he mentions.

when his father died fred franz told his mother he could not go to the funeral because he was just too busy at bethel.

she spoke to rutherford who ordered him to go.

FatFreek 2005

Hey, Sic Semper Tyrannis, it sounds like you lived in Bethel for awhile. Yes?

Len

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What made you leave?

by CuriousUK in

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apologies if this has been discussed before, but i am really very interested in finding out why members here left their congregations for lives away from jw?.

was there a "lightbulb" moment where you just woke up one day and realised that you had been brainwashed?

or a slow realisation over time?

FatFreek 2005

Some have told me that THE GREAT WATCHTOWER CONTRADICTION was a wakeup call to them although that 11 minute read is actually designed for newly interested ones.

Len

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Anonymous Letter Of Warning To Parent of Child Studying With JWs

by Bangalore in

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anonymous letter of warning to parent of child studying with jws.. http://web.archive.org/web/20090731230240/http://geocities.com/heartland/creek/8867/warning.html.

bangalore.

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FatFreek 2005

That letter is some 16 years old but is spot on. New ones are at the mercy of ignorance that is nurtured by lack of Watchtower disclosure, early on, of so many important issues. THE GREAT WATCHTOWER CONTRADICTION, an 11 minute read, is another disclosure of sorts that helps newly interested ones unearth answers to questions they may never have otherwise asked. It also gives pause to seasoned JWs who will hope they never encounter such in door to door work.

Len

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opinion needed quick!

by independenthinker in

hey guys, .

bringing my gf along tonight after been forced to invite her(shes worldly).

how will people treat her?

FatFreek 2005

I know I'm tardy on this one and you've already received some good suggestions. However, realizing she's had little exposure (when compared to your own born-in status) she may find the following 11 minute read quite revealing. For new ones THE GREAT WATCHTOWER CONTRADICTION is a huge disclosure of several matters. For seasoned JW's, I've been told it is quite disturbing.

Len

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My 1,914th post: The man I personally blame for the early success of the Watch Tower Society

by cedars in

it seems fitting to use my 1,914th post to address a doctrine that has shaped the lives of so many of us, and which continues to be a cornerstone belief that is used to keep individual jehovahs witnesses trapped in servitude to a man-made corporation.. .

that said, we might well ask who started it all?

we might say russell, who borrowed heavily from the millerite teachings of the second adventists in advocating a chronology that included the year 1914. as we know, when we research early witness literature we realise that the year 1914 featured in russell's chronology only as the end of a series of events culminating in armageddon, and not the beginning of christ's presence.

FatFreek 2005

Great piece of writing, Cedars. I'm so sorry to learn about your personal situation, "... It is their harsh rulership that so threatens the stability of my own family if I do not keep my actions in check, ..."

However, we're now looking ahead to your post number 1919, 1925, 1942, and 1975.

Len